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Commsman
Practical

United Kingdom
40 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  15:41:43  Show Profile  Visit Commsman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi
It is said that when search engines such as Google index a web page they look at text near the top of the html code.
The output from Dynamic HTML Editor is generated in the order it is created, or from left to right if the objects are re-sorted.
Is there any way I could make sure that the main page text (all in one html object - generated from php/MySQL) could be written at the top of all other DIVs in the final output code? This would be useful to me!

I am nearing completion of a major client site - complete with content management system - very happy with the way it is working out using Dynamic HTML Editor!
Cheers
Julian

s.dav
Site Admin

Italy
3364 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  17:06:34  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Julian,

In my site I've used some tricks to make the hexagora.com site on the top of google like creating an hidden HTML object with the <h1> tag and some keywords into.

When you want to place an object in the top of your page you should send it to "bottom" with the button in the upper toolbar. This because objects written first are overlapped with ones written later.

Regards, Davide
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Commsman
Practical

United Kingdom
40 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  19:01:26  Show Profile  Visit Commsman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks - that is helpful information.
I do use hidden layers to inform Google sometimes - but I get worried that Google gives negative marks for some of these tricks! I know that Google can negative mark you for writing black text on a black background or white text on white background!
I understand the layer priority system you have created - and it confirms some earlier comments I had - better management of z index values would be more useful. Then, you would not have to rely on the order the layers are written in the code.
Cheers
Julian

still learning the ropes
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Andy
Expert

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2010 :  23:13:17  Show Profile  Visit Andy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, useful.. Im just learning how to do a PHP form, and was having problems with the output order of the form being different to the input order because they are all listed differently in the properties box. I guess the work around is to either put a different number at the start of the D or a different alphabetical number. Would be nice if was a simpler way.

Also can you format the out put text so its easier to read by the recipient rather than being in plain text?

Andy
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Andy
Expert

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2010 :  23:33:42  Show Profile  Visit Andy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No, that doesnt work.

Another Q. How can I stop the "Send email" and the "reset" text being output to the email as it just clutters it up?

Andy
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s.dav
Site Admin

Italy
3364 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2010 :  08:59:19  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Andy,

sorry I'm not understanding your questions; can you write them in a more clear way?

Regards, Davide
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Andy
Expert

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2010 :  09:16:52  Show Profile  Visit Andy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi, this is my form http://www.stroke2stroke.co.uk/Booking%20Form.php and it comes out on the sent email as Values from website form:

I want to change the line order of the output, so it is in the same order as visually on the form. Also can I format the input text to make it easier to read on the email message?

Name: andy
SubmitButton1: Submit *******Want to get rid of this line from message**********
Address: 15 plover
LessonTypeOption2: Adult - Improving Swimmer
EmailText1: *******
PhoneText: 01189629111
PostCodeText1: RG111XD
DayOption1: Friday
TimeOption1: After School
PoolOption1: Bagshot Traditional Pool
LessonLengthOption1: 45 minutes
CommentsText1: g\sertae5try ftgh
ResetButton1: *******Want to get rid of this line from message**********

Andy

Edited by - Andy on 07 Dec 2010 09:38:27
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Martin1
Super User

Netherlands
626 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2010 :  16:53:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiding layers is a big nono for Google. You take a huge risk when doing that. I would recommend not taking this risk because Google can punish you severly and remove you alltogether from their engines.

Edited by - Martin1 on 07 Dec 2010 16:54:02
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Andy
Expert

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 09 Dec 2010 :  09:24:33  Show Profile  Visit Andy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Martin, I used to think that then I found this page while doing a site for a equine dentist http://www.equinedentist4u.co.uk he has got blocks of hidden text at the bottom of the page, and although its been reported, he is still there. (Horse Dentists seem to be very competitive)

Andy
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Martin1
Super User

Netherlands
626 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2010 :  15:33:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Than he is just lucky. Trust me it's not worth it. Look at my website
http://www.albruna.nl
if you search for webdesignburo in Google I rank first.
I make no use of hidden layers with text.

You wouldn't be the first to get punished by Google and in time I am sure the site you mention will be.
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Andy
Expert

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2010 :  16:53:10  Show Profile  Visit Andy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Martin, Nice site. Notice you use a lot of meta headers is it that that gets you top perhaps. Any advice appreciated.

Cheers

Andy
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