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T00N
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Posted - 23 Dec 2008 :  20:10:25  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Strange problem.

A site I have build can't be found by Google AT ALL???

The url is www.schepwelding.nl

If I look for schep welding he can't find it and also schep is being replaced by schenk sometimes.

Even if I look for schepwelding.nl Google can't find it???

I'm a bit lost here because normally my sites are quit well found by Google.

Who can help me out?

Jan van Londen
Super User

Netherlands
208 Posts

Posted - 23 Dec 2008 :  22:44:15  Show Profile  Visit Jan van Londen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello TOON,

When did you actually report this site to Google?

Bye,
Londen.
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T00N
Super User

573 Posts

Posted - 23 Dec 2008 :  23:02:52  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I didn't report it but it's online for about 3 months now.
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joneq
Super User

433 Posts

Posted - 23 Dec 2008 :  23:27:12  Show Profile  Visit joneq's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maybe try adding a sitemap. Really unnecessary due to its size,but google might like it--Being such a very small site with no new content is another bad thing--the bigger the better--this is very small and there is probably never any new content added..Nothing ever changes since google does not see images

Also I put it in here and there is no info on the domain name available [among other things]

http://website.grader.com/Default.aspx

It only rates a 2 out of 100

Edited by - joneq on 24 Dec 2008 00:53:42
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Jan van Londen
Super User

Netherlands
208 Posts

Posted - 24 Dec 2008 :  11:14:49  Show Profile  Visit Jan van Londen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
According to me you should add the url to Google. How else must Google know of it's existence. If you don't add the url, Google doesn't know there's something to visit at all.
You can do that here: http://www.google.nl/addurl/



Bye,
Londen.

Edited by - Jan van Londen on 24 Dec 2008 11:15:25
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T00N
Super User

573 Posts

Posted - 24 Dec 2008 :  12:15:42  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No that shouldn't be necessary, that's where they have 'spiders' or 'robots for.
Nevertheless, submitting the url won't hurt so I'll do that anyway.
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Jan van Londen
Super User

Netherlands
208 Posts

Posted - 24 Dec 2008 :  13:41:38  Show Profile  Visit Jan van Londen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's necessary. A robot cannot fiend a new domain if it isn't reported somewhere. That is because most domains are on an existing machine with a certain ip-adres on which there are a lot of domains. You don't get a list of domains from that machine, as far as I know.

Bye,
Londen.
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T00N
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573 Posts

Posted - 24 Dec 2008 :  19:07:32  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No Jan, you're wrong about that.

Every page is visited except for those in a directory password protected.
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T00N
Super User

573 Posts

Posted - 24 Dec 2008 :  19:08:32  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1. Googlebot, Google?s Web Crawler

Googlebot is Google?s web crawling robot, which finds and retrieves pages on the web and hands them off to the Google indexer. It?s easy to imagine Googlebot as a little spider scurrying across the strands of cyberspace, but in reality Googlebot doesn?t traverse the web at all. It functions much like your web browser, by sending a request to a web server for a web page, downloading the entire page, then handing it off to Google?s indexer.

Googlebot consists of many computers requesting and fetching pages much more quickly than you can with your web browser. In fact, Googlebot can request thousands of different pages simultaneously. To avoid overwhelming web servers, or crowding out requests from human users, Googlebot deliberately makes requests of each individual web server more slowly than it?s capable of doing.
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jtarin
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Russia
444 Posts

Posted - 25 Dec 2008 :  02:44:18  Show Profile  Visit jtarin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
It functions much like your web browser, by sending a request to a web server for a web page,

Also like your web browser it must have an address for referral.

One way to control how Google sees your site....
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tour/tour1.html


Porky
www.pacificwavetour.com

Edited by - jtarin on 25 Dec 2008 03:05:36
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joneq
Super User

433 Posts

Posted - 25 Dec 2008 :  15:57:28  Show Profile  Visit joneq's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have never submitted anything to any search engine yet they show up for the most part. I have one that shows up --but just the blog page where I addad new content while replying to a post [about comments] in this forum http://www.hexagora.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1564 I do not know if it was indexed before that.

The new content was simply 2 comments in a blog.Others [test sites] show up because they are being spammed [new content]---again -the index page shows up because all the pages are being spammed I assume--I realize google does not love spammed content but there is no other reason just that page shows up.

google> www.mydemo123.com/olcms I added coments [see above]

www.mydemo123.com/modx3 spam

www.mydemo123.com/snews I added coments here

You can ignore my suggestion about "new-fresh content" as a possible cause,but it is pretty important--and even a little bit can enough difference that if you google the address it will at least show up somewhere [some page] in the site...


Edited by - joneq on 25 Dec 2008 22:37:56
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Jan van Londen
Super User

Netherlands
208 Posts

Posted - 26 Dec 2008 :  23:26:05  Show Profile  Visit Jan van Londen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello TOON,

I don't know where you found the text about Google, but when it says
". . . by sending a request to a web server for a web page"
I think it still means that Google must be aware of the existance of the domain. I used the words "schep" & "welding" and also "Schepwelding" on Google, and in both cases I get a reference to this thread. Not the schepwelding site. I don't know what it means, but I would add the url to Google anyway.
I seams that Google also thinks that a site is important, if many other sites have links to it.
An other possibility is to create a word that doesn't exist an duse it on the site. If Google knows the page and you use that word, you get a 100% hit. (Try "zoekjewat" on Google.)

Bye,
Londen.
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s.dav
Site Admin

Italy
3364 Posts

Posted - 28 Dec 2008 :  11:43:08  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also had the same problem with the http://www.bbagliulivi.it
No search engines contain this site :-(


What I did:
1- I uploaded a sitemap.xml file to google
2- wait at least 2 weeks
3- now the site is into google but only at page 5

What I have to do:
1- search the keywords I want
2- open the first and second site on the google list
3- check the keywords / descriptions / content of these site
4- modify the site accordingly to them :-)

Regards, Davide
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