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chen
Novice

Mexico
5 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  05:14:30  Show Profile  Visit chen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I just downloaded DHE, reading the help, checking the forum,
looking at your sites(a lot of great sites), because I need
a tool to create Sites that can render any browser in any
OS (MAc, Win, Linux) without crazy differences...

Until now it seems DHE can be the tool... but have two
questions...

Is it possible to create sites 200 pages without sacrificing
efficiency?
What problems Can I face in big sites?

Thanks for your support...

Edited by - chen on 28 Nov 2008 05:16:35

T00N
Super User

573 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  07:16:06  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love DHE but for really big sites like 200 pages I would choose a database cms solution.

Keeping an overview with so much pages is hard and when then they are in a database it's much easier to keep track of changes etc.

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Inty
Novice

France
10 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  11:29:32  Show Profile  Visit Inty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Personally I think it's better to use CMS.

But, you can absolutely do it if you make your templates well, cutting and consolidation in different file .dhe (like in CMS) then you call the different elements in page template ...

And I think, maybe you can integrate in your template something like a backoffice.
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chen
Novice

Mexico
5 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  13:48:08  Show Profile  Visit chen's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Grateful for your replays..

I had used several wysiwyg builders mixed with flat editors.

I have created sites for Writers in average 50 to 150 pages using
marketing software that allow to go with this kind of sites, the
big problem here is dont allow pixel positioning(when there is the
need to do it). Of course most of the time my work is backed by flat
editors... I ran into other problems that made me look for an
alternative...

The problem Ive got with pure CSS based editors is the page
rendering in different browsers/OSs... The browser that give me
headaches is Firefox: as the page goes more than 1000px long the
objects dont keep the distance among them, mainly at the bottom of
the page.

Im going to test all day long DHE, if I can do a site 50 pages long
and keep out most of the problems Ive got with my current tools I will
consider it a tool for me...

Last question

Can I have an external css file to control the whole site?

thanks again...
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T00N
Super User

573 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  14:56:52  Show Profile  Visit T00N's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I recently created a site that was about 6000 px high and it gave no problems in Firefox

www.flowcomputerservice.nl
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joneq
Super User

433 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  16:14:35  Show Profile  Visit joneq's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Can I have an external css file to control the whole site?


This is scheduled for the next release.

Can we get an update on the release please. Something with a time frame not just "soon"---if possible.

Will the css feature definitely without a doubt be included?
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chen
Novice

Mexico
5 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  16:16:16  Show Profile  Visit chen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by T00N

I recently created a site that was about 6000 px high and it gave no problems in Firefox

www.flowcomputerservice.nl



But your site is not Pure CSS, its a mix of relative + absolute
positioning... at least it looks to me that way (it has 11 tables).

I have made so many tests, I created locally a pure CSS with 12+
pages and tested it page by page in firefox, IE and Opera in Windows
and Linux (firefox, opera). Spent several days and realize that
pure CSS works but not in every situation...

Then I need a tool that give me the chance to mix positioning in the
same page or create in the same project some pages absolute others
relative positioning..

Im trying to understand how DHE manage Master Pages....

thanks


Edited by - chen on 28 Nov 2008 16:18:29
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Jan van Londen
Super User

Netherlands
208 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  17:19:36  Show Profile  Visit Jan van Londen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Chen,

What I would do, especially to keep the overview, is to "cut the site in pieces". I would make a DHE project for every "piece" of the site.

For every project I would create a subdirectory on the site. In this way you can keep the overview and control your work.

Bye,
Londen.
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chen
Novice

Mexico
5 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2008 :  18:43:51  Show Profile  Visit chen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jan van Londen

Hello Chen,

What I would do, especially to keep the overview, is to "cut the site in pieces". I would make a DHE project for every "piece" of the site.

For every project I would create a subdirectory on the site. In this way you can keep the overview and control your work.



As Im playing and DHE is nice I was thinking what to do in case
some big sites come to my hand, and you are right... its the way
to go...

Right now the most important thing before buy DHE is undertand master
pages...

If there is something or someplace where get information from I'll
be very grateful you point me there...

thanks
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s.dav
Site Admin

Italy
3364 Posts

Posted - 01 Dec 2008 :  09:01:32  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joneq

quote:
Can I have an external css file to control the whole site?


This is scheduled for the next release.

Can we get an update on the release please. Something with a time frame not just "soon"---if possible.

Will the css feature definitely without a doubt be included?




Joneq,

the feature has been created and it is ready ;-)

Regards, Davide
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s.dav
Site Admin

Italy
3364 Posts

Posted - 01 Dec 2008 :  09:05:29  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chen

quote:
Originally posted by Jan van Londen

Hello Chen,

What I would do, especially to keep the overview, is to "cut the site in pieces". I would make a DHE project for every "piece" of the site.

For every project I would create a subdirectory on the site. In this way you can keep the overview and control your work.



As Im playing and DHE is nice I was thinking what to do in case
some big sites come to my hand, and you are right... its the way
to go...

Right now the most important thing before buy DHE is undertand master
pages...

If there is something or someplace where get information from I'll
be very grateful you point me there...

thanks



Hello Chen,

I suggest you to check the help file; I think this is quite complete. There is a section that will help you to understand how master-pages work.

D.H.E. can manage many and many pages; the hexagora site has 50+ pages with many sub-projects (tutorials, templates, etc...)

In any case you can mix D.H.E. pages with a CMS if you prefer it :-)

Regards, Davide
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joneq
Super User

433 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2008 :  21:20:49  Show Profile  Visit joneq's Homepage  Reply with Quote

quote:
Joneq,

the feature has been created and it is ready


Thank you...



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